Saturday, October 4, 2014

Winix 50 Pint Dehumidifier (WDH851)

Winix 50 Pint DehumidifierThis unit is identical to the WDH871 with the difference that one is rated 70 pints and one 50. The first thing to clarify about that rating, and this applies to all dehumidifiers, is that it refers to the maximum amount of water it can remove in 24 hours, not to the size of the tank (which is a fairly standard 2 gallons).

I live in DC and have a beach house in Puerto Rico, which remains closed for 2-3 months at a time so keeping humidity in check becomes a regular chore. I've had and/or tested around 10 dehumidifiers in the last few years. In general they all do the job, clear the air of excess humidity, and they do this fairly effectively. The differences come in how they do this:

1) how many speed settings they have,

2) can the unit be set to run automatically to maintain a certain humidity percent,

3) how noisy are they (notice I don't say how quiet are they, all of them make noise),

4) how are they drained: bucket vs. gravity drain vs. pump

5) how sturdy are they

6) how easily can they be moved from one room to the next (not all wheels are the same)

This unit has 2 fan speed settings. At the high speed this is fairly loud. I'm not talking Rolling Thunder loud, but not quiet enough to keep in a bedroom or to have a quiet conversation next to it. I use this setting for when I'm out of the house. The low setting makes a comfortable background white noise similar to an area fan.

One of the things I like best about this unit is that it has 3 ways to drain the water: 1) manually by carrying a bucket (very solid construction), 2) gravity drain, and 3) it has an included pump that can drain the water up to 15 feet vertically.

The unit has an automatic on and off (or sleep mode) depending on the pre-set humidity level.

The wheels in this unit work very well. In other units (the Danby 60 pint and the Kenmore 70 pint) the wheels either broke or sagged so much that they were worthless after a few months.

Compared to the Frigidaire 70-Pint Dehumidifier (FAD704TDP), the Winix is far better.

1) it is better constructed, the wheels are bigger and easier to roll and the bucket handle feels stronger,

2) it includes a water pump (pump and hose for the Frigidaire add about $80-100)

3) it is quieter, particularly at the low fan setting

I don't usually do reviews but I wanted to on this product. This product sucks water out of the air like a champ. I had a damp basement due to the condensation from all my pex tubing and well holding tank. Now that's a thing of the past. This was very easy to set up and use. I use the automatic pump feature and have hooked it up to the condensation pump that my central air uses and it works flawlessly. That's a great feature! One flaw I found though is the built in humidity gauge. I set it at 50% but the thing would run and run and run ... and run. I took the hygrometer out of my humidor, placed it in the same room as the dehumidifier and noticed that the gauge on the dehumidifier is off by +/10%. I set the unit to 50% and the hygrometer was reading 39%. I set my dehumidifier to 55% and my hygrometer read 46% and it now cycles on and off to maintain that humidity. My suggestion is to make sure you have a hygrometer to confirm your desired setting will actually result in your desired humidity level.

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First, the dehumidifier stopped pulling any significant quantity of water from the air after less than 2 years. Disappointing, yes, but not a huge deal because the compressor has a 5 year warranty. Or at least that's what I thought. Calling up the support line reveals the only way to get service is to MAIL THE UNIT TO THEM AT YOUR COST!!! Yes, that's right, there's no local-drop-off service options for a 50+ lb piece of equipment. I feel like I got suckered with a bait and switch. What's the use of a warranty if it's going to cost me $50+ to take advantage of it? I mean, why not just say I need to send it to China to get it serviced?

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This humidifier is very loud and the buzz from the compressor is absolutely horrible. It does a decent job removing the humidity but we returned this unit as the noise level is THAT BAD ! We then purchased a Soleus Air dehumidifier and are very pleased.

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i bought this putting in my basement. It works fine but it is as loud as a generator. I wish I could return it. It really drives me crazy!

Friday, October 3, 2014

Replacement Filter Wick for Honeywell Portable Humidifiers - HC-14, 3-Pack

Replacement Filter Wick for Honeywell Portable Humidifiers - HC-14, 3-PackI purchased these filters in replacement of the Honeywell filter. The quality was good, therefore the value of these is also good.

These are OK quality but I can't get as much water through my humidifier as I can with the Honeywell filters. Ultimately that means lower humidity in the house. These aren't as sturdy as the Honeywell filters either. Both are overpriced.

To extend the life of the filters I flip them every day and pressure wash after a few weeks.

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Checked around at local hardware stores and on line , best price any where, a good quality filter replacement for my humidifier.

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Kenmore Humidifier Wick Filter 14909, 14912, E2R

Kenmore Humidifier Wick Filter 14909, 14912, E2RI purchased this replacement filter/wick for our humidifier this year and all I can say is, it doesn't work. First, the construction of the media is very open -which I thought meant that it would function better than our older wicks. Not so. These filters aren't strong enough to support the weight of the air funnel in the humidifier or their own weight -when wet. They also don't wick enough water up into themselves to humidify the air. I ran our humidifier on high for eight hours last night. The humidity level in the house was 20% and the humidifier consumed about two quarts of water. Using our old wicks, the humidifier reservoir would have been almost empty. I'm looking online now trying to find our old wicks.

My advise is although these are initially cheaper they are more expensive in the long run. When I first looked at them I thought they would be a much better design due to the very open material weave. They look like a big honey comb. However, they worked very poorly. The original Kenmore filters would last 1/2 of the winter season before changing. These only functioned for about a week and poorly at that. They do not wick the water well and seem to get clogged very fast. The performance at the end of a week was about the same as the Kenmore filters after a couple of months. After getting wet these are almost impossible to replace without having them fall apart. Poor design & poor performance. Stick with the original or at least something similar.

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I will agree with previous comments that the filter has less capacity to wick water up. Our humidifier is not faced with the problem of the "air cone" depressing the filter as it sits on supports that allow the area of the filter itself to remain in it's original shape. The problem is it just doesn't wick up enough water. Don't know what I had before for filters but they were a less 'open'....not so 'holey'...I think they were a folded pleat that was denser, not so openly honeycomb appearing, and they would remain wet enough to allow the humidity to remain at a comfortable level. These filters, even tho they are sitting in an inch of water, are dry to the touch on the upper two thirds of its exposed area. We have a 2 1/2 gallon tank on our Emerson two filter humidifier. With the old filters on dry cold winter days it would need to be filled every 12 hours but it kept the humidity at 50%. With this 'new' type of filter it takes over 24 hours to empty the tank.... meanwhile the humidity drops into the uncomfortable 30's. What to do? I bought six sets (a case) of these filters and find them not up to the task. What can you do to the water to make it more 'wickable' to these filters? I tried a few drops of liquid soap (to decrease the surface tension) but that was not satisfactory.

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OK these aren't as thick as the old models, but they work and fit fine, and I received my order the next day. I wasn't able to find the older, thicker filters anywhere, and I've been looking for two years!

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I received these wicking filters very quickly. They have been in use now a couple of weeks and seem to be holding up. I was hesitent to get them after reading provious reviews. Let's hope these hold up!!!

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Thursday, October 2, 2014

Bryant / Carrier # EF18LJ241 Solenoid Valve

Bryant / Carrier # EF18LJ241 Solenoid ValveThe solenoid valve was a perfect fit for my 15 year old original valve which cracked. It was a five minute job to change out. The price was great and shipping was fast. Saved about $45 from local dealer.

Package was received timely. I replaced my old solenoid valve on the furnace humidifier and it now works. Easy installation.

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Whirlpool 8212501 PUMP-DRAIN

Whirlpool 8212501 PUMP-DRAINAfter 7 seasons of removing water from my dehumidifiers by hand I was ready to try a product like this.

The idea behind this product is simple.It works on the same principle as a sump pump.When the water reaches a certain point in the pumps well area,a quick burst of pumping action causes the water to flow up a hose and out to wherever you route the end of the hose-in my case through a drilled hole outside my basement area to the outside of my house.

Installation was easy enough.I simply cut the hose to my needed length,attached it to the unit,attached the other hose connection to my dehumidifiers hose connector (for condensation that comes out of the actual dehumidifier) and plugged the unit in.Let me mention(no laughing please)that I broke my nose during this simple installation by having too tight of a hole drilled to the outside for the outtake hose.I was pulling the hose with a needle nose plier to pull through the hole and ended up smashing my nose when the plier slipped and my knuckle came smashing on to my nose.I needed a nose job anyway...

Anyway,the unit works really well and now I can leave home for days at a time and know that my basement is at a safe 45% humidity level.Without the unit turned on it would be twice that amount at least.

Just be aware that the dehumidifier pump needs to be physically lower than the dehumidifier.The gravity will force the condensation down the hose in to the dehumidifier pump.I made the mistake of leaving both level with each other and found the the water was just building up and began running out on the the floor.

Besides the pliers hitting my face (I`ll remember it every time that pump turns itself on) and having to figure out that gravity needs to be used to make things work correctly, I am so happy with the results. If it lasts a few years it will be worth the 96 $ (shipping included) I paid for the pump.

Editors noteIt is now Oct of 09` and the pump continues to work perfectly. It has been on for the last two seasons (Apr-Oct of 08 and 09) and still no problems.

2nd editors note-It`s now May 2011 and unit still working perfectly

This pump worked as advertised several years but, as others have written, the plastic connection between the impeller blade and the magnet that the motor spins broke. This caused the motor to stay running but not pump anything. No harm done as I have a water sensor on the floor that alerted me to the overflowing reservoir. Tried using epoxy to fix it to no avail.

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I agree with "Broke": after less than one year, the plastic impeller shaft assembly disintegrated.

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This item worked great for a year then it broke. The motor was good but the assembly that actually pumped the water was cheap and wore out. Not a good value for the price.

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The pump is fine , and the price was very good. The discharge hose supplied with the pump was inferior, and had to be replaced with one that was not so badly compressed. Whirlpool shouyld supply a better vinyl discharge hose for these pumps

Wednesday, October 1, 2014

AC-813 Duracraft Humidifier Wick Filter (2 Pack)

AC-813 Duracraft Humidifier Wick FilterGot the filters really quickly. Also enjoyed the fact that the seller sends them just as is without packaging. Do take advantage of a double order without extra shipping cost. I thought I had, but didn't! That was my only regret, but that was my fault! I'll buy again from this seller with no hesitation.

Fits the specified humidifier and works just fine. A little less rigid so easy to scrunch when you refill the humidifier. Such a good value for the cost I would still recommend it.

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I thought this was one large filter. It is 2 small ones, which fit when placed side by side, but not what I thought it was.

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The filters were exactly as expected. I was surprised to find this product, because the humidifier is very old and I thought they did not make them anymore. They work well.

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Pure Guardian H4500 144 Hour Ultrasonic Humidifier

Pure Guardian H4500 144 Hour Ultrasonic HumidifierWhen I first moved to the high mountains (8400') of Colorado, I used a wick-type humidifier constantly. I also had a nasty little cough that stayed with me for 18 months. Finally, I took my doctor's advice and junked the humidifier. End of cough, due to things growing in the unit. I have been shopping for humidifiers again for a while, and found them all to be lacking severely. Either they were the same type of filter construction that had caused my illness, or they were cheaply made, or low-capacity. This unit may have a tippy storage tank when turned upside-down to fill, but it is well made. The screw-on cap for the reservoir is sturdy and has a rubber gasket. There are carrying handles on the top and bottom of the water container to make it easy to manage, and it puts out a LOT of humidity. At 2/3 setting, it ran the humidity in my bedroom from 22 to 35% the first night, all while being completely silent. The (silent) piezo-electric ultrasonic element is the same as is used in the tweeters of my big PA speakers, and these are practically indestructible if kept clean. The huge water reservoir does mean that it is big, and the styling is retro, which is OK, I guess. More expensive units from the same manufacturer have useless and noisy digital features with the same overall construction. Overall, a solid five.

Update on 22Mar2012: This thing is great. The silver (yes, they impregnate the plastic with silver) added to the water chamber means that there is virtually no scum build-up inside. I did clean it once in the time I have had it. The little metal diaphragm of the ultrasonic element is brass not silver, so I do wipe that off every now and then, but this thing is fantastic. I always run filtered water in it. If you don't, you are either leaving the unfiltered residue in the tank, or blowing it out into your room! Give your sinuses, musical instruments and wood furniture a nice gift.

I bought this humidifier because it seemed perfect:

1, Large capacity 2 gallons or so lasts about 24 hours and isn't too heavy to re-fill

2, Cool mist OR warm mist capability I prefer warm mist, but the heating elements usually take too much cleaning

3, Virtually silent operation no loud fans, just the occasional bubble from the reservoir

4, Nice design

5, Great reviews durability and performance were both praised

6, Germ prevention not sure this is strictly necessary with a warm mist humidifier (boiling water, etc), but apparently a nice to have for cold mist humidifiers.

Believing this justified the cost, which is 2.5 times more than any other humidifier I've ever bought, I bought one. It worked pretty well for just less than 2 weeks. Then there was a loud popping noise and now it doesn't work anymore.

I will bother to exchange it for a new one, but I won't be buying any others from this maker. At the price, I would expect much greater durability (even the forty dollar humidifiers last a couple of years or so) and there should be an electronic humidistat so that you can regulate the humidity. This model only has a dial that seems to govern output. The model with a humidistat is twice the price (daylight robbery, instead of this one, which is merely standard burglary).

I'm upset with this product, but I'm even more upset with humidifier manufacturers in general. I know water and electronics don't mix, but what I'm discovering is that the only genuinely bulletproof humidifiers on the market are the buckets of water with fans ("evaporative"). Really?? That's state of the art for you guys? Can you at least hook up with Dyson and make the fans quieter?

--UPDATE--

I've now got a replacement and I've noticed a couple of differences: Firstly, the dial on the new machine does much more to regulate the amount of visible mist than the dial on my original machine. Second, the tank now lasts for at least three days instead of one or less. I already knew the original machine was faulty (it broke within 2 weeks), but based on this new information it looks like it was running at maximum, regardless of what the dial was set to. This leaves me with two important takeaways:

1, If you just bought the machine and want to know whether it's working properly, you should see a substantial change when you turn the dial, from almost no mist to lots.

2, Can the machine handle being left on maximum output continuously? I don't know, and after last time, I dare not risk it.

--UPDATE II: The sequel--

Well, the second unit that I received lasted the season and is now in storage, clean and dry. Cleaning is simpler than some of the humidifiers I've had in the past. There are no exposed tea-kettle elements, so it's just a case of washing in a weak vinegar solution. If it doesn't successfully start up again next season, I'll update this again. I will re-iterate that this humidifier is expensive. I expected it to work first time and it didn't. However, if it had I would have been as happy with this device as everyone else seems to be, so feel free to take my star rating with a grain of salt.

By the way, to partially address the comment I've had so far, this review only represents an n of 2 (not 1, smartypants). I think it's useful to tot up the star scores from all the reviews to get a reasonable proxy for the failure rate. For instance, if you do this for Samsung LCD televisions you get a 10% failure rate for a sample size that's approaching 1000. That compares pretty unfavorably with the other major marques like Sony and Sharp... but is borne out by what I've heard from sales people at electronic retail stores (ie, quasi-independent experts). Anyway, for this humidifier it's unclear because of the small sample size. At the time of writing, the failure rate looked like it was hovering around 20%, which doesn't sound great until you compare that to the failure rates of other humidifiers!

Bottom line: if I need another humidifier, this is my benchmark and I'd definitely consider buying it again ... from a store with a great return policy.

--UPDATE III: Comparison with SPT SU-4010--

I recently purchased the SPT SU-4010 from Amazon, which is another highly rated cold/warm mist humidifier. I like it for many of the same reasons that I now love the Germ Guardian. The chief difference is the SPT model is quieter (virtually silent) but puts out less mist over the same time period and has a smaller tank. If your [bedroom] is under 500 square feet and you need a silent humidifier, I'd recommend the SPT SU-4010. The ion exchange filter in that model even minimizes the "glugging" that is often the loudest noise from these type of humidifiers. If you have a larger room, or are aiming to maximize the volume of water you can get into the air over a given time, I still recommend the Germ Guardian. Note that I cannot yet speak to the reliability of the SPT SU-4010, but Consumer Reports rated it very highly. Please refer to my review of that model on this website if you'd like to progress updates for that model.

--UPDATE IV: Just bought another--

Saw a refurbished version of this Germ Guardian on an Amazon-affiliated website for half the price of a big warehouse store and bought it. Everything seems fine, although I've noticed a slightly disturbing difference in output from this one, which is now the third one of these I've owned. This one has to be cranked much higher to achieve the same mist in identical conditions. That could be because it's refurbished or it could be because there is a great deal of variability... Either way, something to bear in mind. I'm putting both away for the summer now so there won't be any more updates until next winter. I did a quick clean with a dilute solution of standard household vinegar and that should leave these ready to go then.

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As reported in other reviews, this humidifier will leave a while film if the water used is not filtered or distilled. This film is not as benign as described in some other reviews (explanation below). If I had easy and/or inexpensive access to filtered water I would give this product 5 stars it works great, virtully noiseless as advertized, and virtually maintenance free with there being no filters to replace.

I've got one at home and one at the office. The tap water I have access to at work is treated (clorine), but not softened, and it's likley rather hard considering all of the minerals in the water here. After a few days running in the office the white film appeared on nearly every dark surface in the room (especially computer keyboard, printer, phone). Then my printer in my office started malfunctioning, then our copier. The copier repairman discovered the white film inside the copier, fouling up sensors and causing malfunction. He told us we'd have to stop using the humidifier or it would continue to cause problems. I now know why I had to just spend $400 on a new office printer as well. This dust that is emitted from the humidifier can float through the tiniest of cracks and holes and can deposit on nooks and crannies everywhere plenty of places you can't reach with a dust rag, much less a Q-tip. Pressurized air dusting spray does not seem to remove the dust effectively either.

I've got another at my home, 35 miles away, where our tap water is well water, which is untreated hard water. Here I've only noticed a small bit of the white film, on only a few of the darkest, shiniest surfaces. What appears on this humidifier that does not appear in the humidifier in the office, however, is a pinkish amber colored slime mold / mildew on the bottom side of the reservior (visible only when you refill the reservoir). This is probably becasue this water is not treated with clorine, and this part of the humidifier is creating a perfect breeding ground for bacterias, mold, mildew, etc. I'm not sure exactly what this slimy substance is, or if it's presence in the humidifier raises any health concerns. So I'm going to deduce that my water at home has less minerals in it that can turn into this white dust. I'm not sure if clorine in city water could also cause this white dust as well.

The bottom line is, if your water is perfect, this humidifier is close to perfect. If your water is not perfect, you may have some serious problems with this unit, and I would not reccomend it. I would strongly warn anybody against using this in a room with electronic devices if they are not totally sure their water is filtered properly.

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We wondered a bit about this product after reading a lot of reviews, but decided to buy it because we needed a humidifier and the price was right. We've had it running for several days now, and we are very pleased with it. The mist output is variable in quantity, and it can be either cool or warm. Some of the reviews we read said the warm didn't work, but I think they must have been expecting steam (which it doesn't do). The temperature of the warm is not a whole lot different from the cool, and you have to allow it 10-15 minutes in a closed room to take effect. The other comment that people had made was that the vents were at 180° from each other. Fact is, that you can turn the small one as well as the large one, so they can be adjusted to any direction you want. The tank has to be filled at the kitchen sink, but that's not bad because it sits upside down nicely supported by the walls of a double sink. The tank is heavy when filled, because it holds 2-½ gallons. With fairly high volume of mist, one tank lasted us about 48 hours. The mist from this is good enough that I have been able to sleep very comfortably without my nasal passages clogging up due to extreme dryness. I would highly recommend this product. It does what it is supposed to do. Don't forget to read the instruction manual!

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